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		<title>Comment on Hybrids for Alexandria by Bud Miller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bud Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 21:58:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rob,

I respectfully object to your use of the phrase &quot;extra city money&quot;.

There is no such animal in these challenging times.

Until you understand that basic concept, you will remain out of touch with a growing number of the taxpayers who voted for you.

There is no need to &quot;race to the bottom&quot; as you put it.  Alexandria can survive with a silver plated budget instead of a gold plated one.

Best wishes for the holiday season.

Bud</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rob,</p>
<p>I respectfully object to your use of the phrase &#8220;extra city money&#8221;.</p>
<p>There is no such animal in these challenging times.</p>
<p>Until you understand that basic concept, you will remain out of touch with a growing number of the taxpayers who voted for you.</p>
<p>There is no need to &#8220;race to the bottom&#8221; as you put it.  Alexandria can survive with a silver plated budget instead of a gold plated one.</p>
<p>Best wishes for the holiday season.</p>
<p>Bud</p>
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		<title>Comment on December Council Updates by December Council Updates &#124; Small Business Loans</title>
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		<dc:creator>December Council Updates &#124; Small Business Loans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 18:44:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] December Council Updates   &#8230; transportation, budget, small business and community projects that Iâ€™ve been involved in. Please contact me anytime to share ideas or discuss city issues. Sincerely, Rob Krupicka 1) Major Transportation Issues â€“ On Saturday, the Council will vote on which transportation options it wants the Virginia &#8230; Tags: transportation issues, council updates, transportation options, transportation budget, community projects [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] December Council Updates   &#8230; transportation, budget, small business and community projects that Iâ€™ve been involved in. Please contact me anytime to share ideas or discuss city issues. Sincerely, Rob Krupicka 1) Major Transportation Issues â€“ On Saturday, the Council will vote on which transportation options it wants the Virginia &#8230; Tags: transportation issues, council updates, transportation options, transportation budget, community projects [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Fredericksburg.com &#8211; School officials look at walking students by obesity informaton</title>
		<link>http://krupickablog.wordpress.com/2009/10/26/fredericksburg-com-school-officials-look-at-walking-students/#comment-84</link>
		<dc:creator>obesity informaton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 22:18:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes, this is true indeed. need to spread this news all over the net.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes, this is true indeed. need to spread this news all over the net.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Third Grade Social Studies SOL test by robert legge</title>
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		<dc:creator>robert legge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 13:48:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wrote this column for the Culpeper Star Exponent on this this morning.

 
Was the 3rd Grade SOL History Test Really Worth Saving?

Robert Legge

Culppeer Star Exponent

July 2, 2009

 

In response to a request from school superintendents seeking ways to reduce testing requirements, the State Superintendent proposed dropping the 3rd grade history and social sciences SOL test. The curriculum would still be taught but not tested under the proposal. The theory was that more emphasis needed to be placed on reading and math. 93% of students passed last year&#039;s test that cost $380,000 to administer.  

 

Surely the London-based SOL testing company Pearson was not happy but within days dozens of complaints came from historical parks, history advocates, and state legislators.

 

The superintendent reacted swiftly and withdrew the proposal. While the test comprises 4 elements- history, economics, civics, and geography, the most complaints came from history supporters.  

 

Colonial Williamsburg Foundation&#039;s Colin Campbell said &quot;focusing on the early years of American history is critical in a democratic society&quot;. Virginia Consortium of Social Studies Specialists&#039; Ken Bassett added &quot;it&#039;s a critical test that captures the measurement of the foundation for social studies&quot;. Bill Obrochta of the Virginia Historical Society warned that the curriculum wouldn&#039;t be taught &quot;if there&#039;s no stick at the end&quot;. Another supporter referred to the need for &quot;the hammer of a test&quot;. Lovely analogies.

 

Let&#039;s look at the SOL standards and one of the released tests. It&#039;s technically for grades K-3, but the test mostly only covers grades 2-3. Grade 2 history standards are as follows: &quot;The student will explain how the contributions of ancient China and Egypt have influenced the present world in terms of architecture, inventions, the calendar, and written language&quot;. There is another section on American Indians. Grade 3 history standards require that students can explain the contributions and influence of Greece, Rome, and Mali and describe the accomplishments of Columbus, Cartier, Newport, etc.

Sounds pretty intimidating for 6-8-year olds. Not much American history though. OK, let&#039;s see how we measure those rigorous standards.  

 

Actually 4 years of history study is measured in just 10 questions, and two are about word recognition and reading comprehension and a third is more math-related. So that leaves only seven.

 

Question one from the most recently released test asks which of four Indian tribes lived in Virginia. Question two is about identifying Dr. King&#039;s birthday. Three is about who used a kite in an experiment.

Four shows a graph and asks how often a president is elected. That&#039;s the math question.

 

That&#039;s it for measuring 4 years of American history study. No kidding, only 3 questions. On to ancient history. 

 

Question 5: &quot;Ali could see pyramids from his home. His father made papyrus&quot;. Answer choice: Ancient Greece, China, Egypt, or Rome. Answer: Egypt. That sums up 5000 years of Egyptian history.  

 

Questions six and seven are about reading comprehension and word recognition which I&#039;ll skip.

 

Question eight: An example of Greek architecture is: arch, column, dome or terraced building?  Answer: column. That covers the Greeks. Sorry ancient China and Rome, maybe they can work you in on another test.

 

Questions nine and ten were about the 13th century Empire of Mali&#039;s practice of storytelling and their use of salt.  

 

There&#039;s 10 questions on civics, such as: What should Sam do to show he takes care of his belongings?  Put away his coat or sit at his desk?  Kids don&#039;t even wear coats when they take these tests in late May but I think that&#039;s the answer.

 

The economics portion deals with arcane terms like &quot;opportunity cost&quot; and Geography questions on whether the teacher is standing in front or behind the desk. There are tough questions about identifying France or the Indian Ocean. 

 

If we want kids to understand and appreciate history, start with the known and work up to the unknown.  Make it relevant and age appropriate.  Have it  start with Virginia, not Egypt or Mali. 

 

Some test advocates said the material won&#039;t be taught if it isn&#039;t tested.  Sounds more like it&#039;s taught but not tested now.

 

Mr. Campbell.  Have you read this test?  Do you really think it is that critical that we continue it?

 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wrote this column for the Culpeper Star Exponent on this this morning.</p>
<p>Was the 3rd Grade SOL History Test Really Worth Saving?</p>
<p>Robert Legge</p>
<p>Culppeer Star Exponent</p>
<p>July 2, 2009</p>
<p>In response to a request from school superintendents seeking ways to reduce testing requirements, the State Superintendent proposed dropping the 3rd grade history and social sciences SOL test. The curriculum would still be taught but not tested under the proposal. The theory was that more emphasis needed to be placed on reading and math. 93% of students passed last year&#8217;s test that cost $380,000 to administer.  </p>
<p>Surely the London-based SOL testing company Pearson was not happy but within days dozens of complaints came from historical parks, history advocates, and state legislators.</p>
<p>The superintendent reacted swiftly and withdrew the proposal. While the test comprises 4 elements- history, economics, civics, and geography, the most complaints came from history supporters.  </p>
<p>Colonial Williamsburg Foundation&#8217;s Colin Campbell said &#8220;focusing on the early years of American history is critical in a democratic society&#8221;. Virginia Consortium of Social Studies Specialists&#8217; Ken Bassett added &#8220;it&#8217;s a critical test that captures the measurement of the foundation for social studies&#8221;. Bill Obrochta of the Virginia Historical Society warned that the curriculum wouldn&#8217;t be taught &#8220;if there&#8217;s no stick at the end&#8221;. Another supporter referred to the need for &#8220;the hammer of a test&#8221;. Lovely analogies.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s look at the SOL standards and one of the released tests. It&#8217;s technically for grades K-3, but the test mostly only covers grades 2-3. Grade 2 history standards are as follows: &#8220;The student will explain how the contributions of ancient China and Egypt have influenced the present world in terms of architecture, inventions, the calendar, and written language&#8221;. There is another section on American Indians. Grade 3 history standards require that students can explain the contributions and influence of Greece, Rome, and Mali and describe the accomplishments of Columbus, Cartier, Newport, etc.</p>
<p>Sounds pretty intimidating for 6-8-year olds. Not much American history though. OK, let&#8217;s see how we measure those rigorous standards.  </p>
<p>Actually 4 years of history study is measured in just 10 questions, and two are about word recognition and reading comprehension and a third is more math-related. So that leaves only seven.</p>
<p>Question one from the most recently released test asks which of four Indian tribes lived in Virginia. Question two is about identifying Dr. King&#8217;s birthday. Three is about who used a kite in an experiment.</p>
<p>Four shows a graph and asks how often a president is elected. That&#8217;s the math question.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s it for measuring 4 years of American history study. No kidding, only 3 questions. On to ancient history. </p>
<p>Question 5: &#8220;Ali could see pyramids from his home. His father made papyrus&#8221;. Answer choice: Ancient Greece, China, Egypt, or Rome. Answer: Egypt. That sums up 5000 years of Egyptian history.  </p>
<p>Questions six and seven are about reading comprehension and word recognition which I&#8217;ll skip.</p>
<p>Question eight: An example of Greek architecture is: arch, column, dome or terraced building?  Answer: column. That covers the Greeks. Sorry ancient China and Rome, maybe they can work you in on another test.</p>
<p>Questions nine and ten were about the 13th century Empire of Mali&#8217;s practice of storytelling and their use of salt.  </p>
<p>There&#8217;s 10 questions on civics, such as: What should Sam do to show he takes care of his belongings?  Put away his coat or sit at his desk?  Kids don&#8217;t even wear coats when they take these tests in late May but I think that&#8217;s the answer.</p>
<p>The economics portion deals with arcane terms like &#8220;opportunity cost&#8221; and Geography questions on whether the teacher is standing in front or behind the desk. There are tough questions about identifying France or the Indian Ocean. </p>
<p>If we want kids to understand and appreciate history, start with the known and work up to the unknown.  Make it relevant and age appropriate.  Have it  start with Virginia, not Egypt or Mali. </p>
<p>Some test advocates said the material won&#8217;t be taught if it isn&#8217;t tested.  Sounds more like it&#8217;s taught but not tested now.</p>
<p>Mr. Campbell.  Have you read this test?  Do you really think it is that critical that we continue it?</p>
<p>Is this typical of how the whole SOL program is run?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Third Grade Social Studies SOL test by krupickablog</title>
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		<dc:creator>krupickablog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 13:35:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having high standards is important.  I believe our standards can be even higher.  I also believe there is ample room for our accountability regime to be improved using new research into how children learn as well as by taking advantage of computerized testing and the flexibility it provides.  Ideally, testing should not just be an end of year, punitive exercise, it should be something that can occur at various times so that teachers can use the results to tailor their instruction to a student&#039;s specific needs.  End of year testing has its place, but there are other ways to ensure accountability for the content.  I greatly appreciate the passion for accountability and the bi-partisan support it holds.  That passion should not mask the fact that we should always seek ways to improve our accountability system so it helps teachers teach and students learn.  And that passion should also include a strong passion and support for appropriate school funding.  Schools in VA are seeing dramatic cuts due to the economy.  Teachers and schools are being asked to do well more than ever before with much fewer resources.  Teaching positions are being eliminated. If we are truly passionate about history and social studies content we would extend that passion to ensure teachers have the resources and training they need.  Without the resources (which are lacking right now) the SOL test becomes a hollow device.  If our goal of testing is to ensure great teaching is going on, we need to make sure we advocate for an educational system that has the resources to make that happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having high standards is important.  I believe our standards can be even higher.  I also believe there is ample room for our accountability regime to be improved using new research into how children learn as well as by taking advantage of computerized testing and the flexibility it provides.  Ideally, testing should not just be an end of year, punitive exercise, it should be something that can occur at various times so that teachers can use the results to tailor their instruction to a student&#8217;s specific needs.  End of year testing has its place, but there are other ways to ensure accountability for the content.  I greatly appreciate the passion for accountability and the bi-partisan support it holds.  That passion should not mask the fact that we should always seek ways to improve our accountability system so it helps teachers teach and students learn.  And that passion should also include a strong passion and support for appropriate school funding.  Schools in VA are seeing dramatic cuts due to the economy.  Teachers and schools are being asked to do well more than ever before with much fewer resources.  Teaching positions are being eliminated. If we are truly passionate about history and social studies content we would extend that passion to ensure teachers have the resources and training they need.  Without the resources (which are lacking right now) the SOL test becomes a hollow device.  If our goal of testing is to ensure great teaching is going on, we need to make sure we advocate for an educational system that has the resources to make that happen.</p>
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		<title>Comment on This is why we need to change the state law&#8230; by krupickablog</title>
		<link>http://krupickablog.wordpress.com/2009/05/23/this-is-why-we-need-to-change-the-state-law/#comment-41</link>
		<dc:creator>krupickablog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 13:27:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We are not asking for a new law, we are asking for a clarification and enhancement to an existing law.  Laws are often not written to be as clear or concise as they should be.  In this case, the lack of clarity creates confusion and would be easy to fix.   I don&#039;t think we help ourselves when we assume all current laws were perfectly conceived or constructed.  We can all learn from experience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are not asking for a new law, we are asking for a clarification and enhancement to an existing law.  Laws are often not written to be as clear or concise as they should be.  In this case, the lack of clarity creates confusion and would be easy to fix.   I don&#8217;t think we help ourselves when we assume all current laws were perfectly conceived or constructed.  We can all learn from experience.</p>
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		<title>Comment on This is why we need to change the state law&#8230; by Rob Krupicka Says We Need More Laws &#171; Alexandria Is Red Again</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Krupicka Says We Need More Laws &#171; Alexandria Is Red Again</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 15:13:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] local Councilmen, had this to say recently in his blog with the June issue of Krupicka news: &#8220;A four year old girl was hit walking in a marked cross walk in Alexandria recently. She is going to be okay, but the accident underscores why I’ve been campaigning for years to [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] local Councilmen, had this to say recently in his blog with the June issue of Krupicka news: &#8220;A four year old girl was hit walking in a marked cross walk in Alexandria recently. She is going to be okay, but the accident underscores why I’ve been campaigning for years to [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Third Grade Social Studies SOL test by robert legge</title>
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		<dc:creator>robert legge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 03:32:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Read the 3rd grade standards.  They&#039;re pretty rigorous.  &quot;They will explain....&quot;  all about Rome, Greece, China, Mali, Egypt.   Fine.  Now look at how they assess (2007) whether kids have mastered the material.  Question one- ie What architecture is Greece famous for- columns, arches, terraced building or something else.  Answer- columns.   OK, that about covers 1000 years of Greece.  Now the Roman Empire-  Question one....Well there isn&#039;t a question one.  Maybe China?  Sorry, nothing.  OK, moving right along, here&#039;s one- &quot;Ali can see pyramids from his house and his dad makes papyrus, where is he?  Egypt, China, Greece, or Rome.   Egypt!!!  Great you have mastered the material And VA continues to lead the nation in assessment.  Let us celebrate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Read the 3rd grade standards.  They&#8217;re pretty rigorous.  &#8220;They will explain&#8230;.&#8221;  all about Rome, Greece, China, Mali, Egypt.   Fine.  Now look at how they assess (2007) whether kids have mastered the material.  Question one- ie What architecture is Greece famous for- columns, arches, terraced building or something else.  Answer- columns.   OK, that about covers 1000 years of Greece.  Now the Roman Empire-  Question one&#8230;.Well there isn&#8217;t a question one.  Maybe China?  Sorry, nothing.  OK, moving right along, here&#8217;s one- &#8220;Ali can see pyramids from his house and his dad makes papyrus, where is he?  Egypt, China, Greece, or Rome.   Egypt!!!  Great you have mastered the material And VA continues to lead the nation in assessment.  Let us celebrate.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Third Grade Social Studies SOL test by Should 60 be passing? Rockingham County and the 10 Point Grading Scale &#171; Harrisonburg Va News</title>
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		<dc:creator>Should 60 be passing? Rockingham County and the 10 Point Grading Scale &#171; Harrisonburg Va News</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 03:39:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] tests. That puts kids’ futures at risk than any grading scale ever could. Can we all agree that standardized testing for third graders is a bit much. I am a firm believer in making learning interesting and these tests put so much [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on November Elections&#8230; by Leslie Wilder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leslie Wilder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 19:43:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you.  I don&#039;t understand the objections to moving voting to fall.  Are opponents satisfied with 15% of residents voting?  Apparently so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you.  I don&#8217;t understand the objections to moving voting to fall.  Are opponents satisfied with 15% of residents voting?  Apparently so.</p>
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